A good question is how many aspects of the Mormon "ceremonies" were ripped off from the masons? What a scam. I think I'll go into the woods, claim a vision and start my own cult just like old Joseph Smith.
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Mormon Church plans three temples for the worthy ones.
by jam inthe utah-based church of jesus christ od lds will build.
temples in meridians, idaho---fort collins, colo.--and.
winnipeg, manitoba, canada... mormon temples are considered the most sacred place.
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Mormon Church plans three temples for the worthy ones.
by jam inthe utah-based church of jesus christ od lds will build.
temples in meridians, idaho---fort collins, colo.--and.
winnipeg, manitoba, canada... mormon temples are considered the most sacred place.
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For the right price you too can be a "worthy one". $$$
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Are you smarter than an Atheist? I found the results to be amusing.
by jam ina survey of 32 question of religious knowledge given by the.
pew forum on the religion and public life.. get this, on average, americans got 16 of 32 right.. number one group, yes, the atheists and agnostics got.
an average of (20.9), jews (20.5), mormons(20.3), protestants(16).
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30 out of 32, and I'm an Atheist. I've never heard of Maimonides or Jonathan Edwards who participated in the First Great Awakening. After checking the test averages on pewforum.org I don't feel too bad, those two questions were the most commonly missed. Only 8% of people surveyed knew that Maimonides was Jewish, and 11% got the Jonathan Edwards question correct.
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Is everyone on here disassociated??
by happi2b inso i don't understand it seems to me from the posts that i have read just about everyone is disassociated.. just wondering if that's true or if i am not the only one on here still within the organization..
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I've never been a JW. My spouse was raised as one. After a long and very thorough study of the group, it's blatantly obvious to me that the Jehovah's Witnesses are a destructive doomsday cult. Welcome to the forum, stick around for awhile, you’ll be amazed about what you can learn here. Have you been to Jwfacts.com yet?
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Jehovah Bled For YOU - To Receive YOUR Punishment (the wages of sin)
by Perry inzech 12: 9,10 (jehovah is speaking).
kjv - and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son.
nasb - so that they will look on me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for him, as one mourns for an only son.
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The Creator of the Universe bled for me? And we should feel guilty simply for being born (wages of sin)? What a primitive, superstitious worldview you have.
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Evolution of a Con
by Resistance is Futile inhelp me out here, ive never been a jw (family are in the cult) but im trying to fully understand the madness that is their doctrine and subsequent mind control over their captive members.
its seems logical that they will eventually abandon the 144,000 doctrine as being a literal number.
time is the enemy of a false prophet.
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Help me out here, I’ve never been a JW (family are in the Cult) but I’m trying to fully understand the madness that is their doctrine and subsequent mind control over their captive members. It’s seems logical that they will eventually abandon the 144,000 doctrine as being a literal number. Time is the enemy of a False Prophet. Which got me thinking, when there are no longer any living “anointed” members on Earth, how will the Governing Body justify their authority over the followers? The Governing Body = The Anointed = The Faithful and Discreet Slave, correct? Therefore should we not be surprised that the number of anointed has stopped decreasing? Any thoughts on this issue?
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"Who else are we to go away to?"
by simon17 into the intellectually honest witness, it seems like it often comes down to this principle.
"fine, if the witnesses aren't the truth, then show me the better answer and i'll consider it.
" and how do you deal with that?
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The “Where else will we go?” question is a very effective thought stopping ritual. Especially when you consider how much time and energy the leaders of the Cult spend on “poisoning the well” by bashing other religions. They make it quite clear that you can’t go to any other religion to receive salvation or spiritual food or whatever the hell you want to call it.
I actually have an answer to their question “Where else will we go?” And it has nothing to do with joining another religion or cult. They need to go straight to a Psychologist and get some help, seriously.
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Literature-Leaving Etiquette
by zoiks ina friend of mine is the tasting room manager at a local vineyard.
this weekend the vineyard hosted an anniversary party for a my-gosh-they-are-so-young-for-having-been-married-for-so-long couple.
while cleaning up after the party, the employees found numerous pieces of literature hidden in their magazine racks, and the 3-dvd set, "the bible - a book of fact & prophecy" hidden among their cds.
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I think it would be funny to tell them to come get their crap. But won't it just be placed somewhere else with the intention of luring people into the Cult? Throw it in the trash, where it belongs.
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I'm a new study, need advice.
by Resistance is Futile ina little background on me, i have never been a jw.
my spouse was born and raised in the cult, disfellowshipped as a young adult and is now completely shunned by family still trapped inside.
before i met my spouse i knew very little about the jws.
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Thanks everyone for the great advice. It's somewhat ironic that they want to pull me into the Cult, while at the same time I'm showing interest simply because I’d love to see them escape.
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I'm a new study, need advice.
by Resistance is Futile ina little background on me, i have never been a jw.
my spouse was born and raised in the cult, disfellowshipped as a young adult and is now completely shunned by family still trapped inside.
before i met my spouse i knew very little about the jws.
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A little background on me, I have never been a JW. My spouse was born and raised in the Cult, disfellowshipped as a young adult and is now completely shunned by family still trapped inside. Before I met my spouse I knew very little about the JW’s. Seeing the way my spouse was treated made me want to learn as much as I could about the religion. The more I researched the more shocked I became. The average person knows very little about what really goes on inside the Jehovah’s Witnesses. So keep speaking out about your experiences, the public needs to be warned about these extremist groups.
I’m currently in a precarious situation. I’m talking to a relative of my spouse and giving the relative the impression that I’m a interested “study”. Yes it’s slightly dishonest, I have no real intention of joining their doomsday cult. But their recruitment tactics are also slightly dishonest, they are not forthcoming with “wordly” people about some of the more extreme beliefs. I also know that this is the only way I can talk to him about his religion without him getting defensive and basically shutting down mentally. The reason why I’ve begun the study is that I actually feel for my spouses relatives. If the situation were reversed and I was the one who had been raised in a high control doomsday group, I would want someone to try and gently show me that there is real freedom beyond the imaginary walls the cult has created and dubbed as “spiritual protection”. I don’t want to reveal too much personal info on this forum, the in-laws have no idea that I’m a scary “apostate” who thinks their religion is a dangerous cult. If they knew that, the opportunity to have an open discussion would be gone. I know they would quickly retreat back to the perceived safety of the group, with a juicy story to tell about the demonz using someone to tempt them from the “Truth”. Basically what I’m doing with my in-law is playing stupid, so that I can get him to explain some of the more illogical beliefs to me. I’m hoping that as he explains things out loud to someone who knows the right questions to ask he’ll begin to slowly realize that a lot of the things he’s been taught and forced to accept without question are not actually based on logic or reason.
I realize that a few paragraphs will not be able to explain exactly how I feel and what my motivation is, but perhaps I would say I’m slightly idealistic. As I told my spouse, I know that there are all kinds of injustices going on around the world, but this happens to be the biggest injustice that I see going on in my immediate environment right now. I see my in-laws being abused emotionally with the use of fear and guilt. I see them being indoctrinated with phobias so that they won’t escape from the group. I see their critical thinking skills being discouraged. Worst of all I see another generation of impressionable young children being indoctrinated into a very dangerous group that uses emotional blackmail to keep them from peacefully walking away. I think if someone has the capability to help those around them then they have a requirement to at least attempt to help. Because I now do know so much about what goes on in their religion and due to the fact that I also still have the label of “potential recruit” on me I think I’m in a unique position to help, even if only slightly. I know to not expect dramatic results, but if I can introduce just the tiniest bit of logic into their crazy world view then I can walk away saying I did all I realistically could.
I’ve read “Combating Cult Mind Control” although I can’t seem to find it right now. I remember it said attempt to talk to the persons pre-cult identity. What if they were born into the cult, how would you approach it then? I’ve been careful to avoid issues over doctrine. It feels like I’m walking through a minefield when I talk to him about the religion, I don’t want to make a wrong move. Any kind of advice would be useful. I know I only have a short window of time, if I keep bringing up difficult questions I’m sure I’ll eventually be dropped or he will suspect I’ve been reading “apostate” material. Keep in mind that I’m talking to a young man in his twenties. If you were in my shoes and you truly cared about the person’s well being how would you approach it? Looking back at when you were still in the religion, what could a “study” or friend have brought up that might have momentarily stopped you in your tracks and caused you to actually think, instead of just parroting back the preprogrammed answer that’s been provided by the Watchtower?